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time will tell which foreign policy position will define the obama years. joining us to discuss from washington is former assistant secretary of state and professor at george washington university, professor pj crowley. professor, thank you for joining us. >> hello. >> pj as we talk about the legacy of the obama doctrine, vis-a-vis our war on terrorists drones. the attacks were motivated to do what they did by the wars in iraq and afghanistan. i'll quote a little bit from that story. the 19-year-old suspect in the boston marathon bombings has told interrogators that the american wars in iraq and afghanistan, motivated he and his brother to carry out the attack. what do you make of that, pj? >> i'm not surprised at all that has been a motivator for jihadists around the world, particularly the u.s. invasion of iraq in 2003. so this just continues a theme, and it's not even unique to the united states. faisal shazad, the times square bomber, said he was motivated by the ongoing drone campaign in pakistan. >> wes, as someone who has seen combat, we're having ou
time will tell which foreign policy position will define the obama years. joining us to discuss from washington is former assistant secretary of state and professor at george washington university, professor pj crowley. professor, thank you for joining us. >> hello. >> pj as we talk about the legacy of the obama doctrine, vis-a-vis our war on terrorists drones. the attacks were motivated to do what they did by the wars in iraq and afghanistan. i'll quote a little bit from that...
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foreign policy. and as that rises, hostility rises, rage rises and people want to reach out against the united states. so this radicalization is an issue that the u.s. government has been focused on for many, many years certainly since before 9/11 but certainly since 9/11. >> i read an interesting article, i think it was in the national review, but i have to go back and check that about the fact that we know longer sort of patriotize those who come, legal immigrants who come here. and looks at europe and says part of what happened in britain was that there were just these separate communities, no sense of common community. and it seems to me that these -- at least the older brother represented that sense of alienation. >> possibly. one of the things that we found is people that have a strong core and very strong values regarding anything can't be brainwashed into going against their values. >> right. >> he was looking for something. and let's say that he was radicalized in chechnya, in russia. he was
foreign policy. and as that rises, hostility rises, rage rises and people want to reach out against the united states. so this radicalization is an issue that the u.s. government has been focused on for many, many years certainly since before 9/11 but certainly since 9/11. >> i read an interesting article, i think it was in the national review, but i have to go back and check that about the fact that we know longer sort of patriotize those who come, legal immigrants who come here. and...
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first of all, there's been much less foreign policy discussions. we're not a country that's in the mood to go invade anyone anymore. the tsarnaev brothers have been in the united states much longer. they were really immigrants and the fact that they come from chechnya, a place that's been at war with russia has in some ways softened the response. so far at least, i think we have not seen as much anti-muslim kind of talk as there was after 9/11. >> i think you're absolutely right. there's been some. there's been some of that almost knee jerk reaction, which obviously is a problem, but nothing like what occurred immediately after 9/11. isn't that right? >> yeah. i also think -- there are a billion muslims in the world. muslims come in every shape and color. in the american imagination, we have almost racialized what it means to be muslim. the fact these guys are from chechn chechnya under mines the level of racist reactions. to some degree part of what the anti-muslim sentiment after 9/11 was not only based on religion, but it was based on the idea o
first of all, there's been much less foreign policy discussions. we're not a country that's in the mood to go invade anyone anymore. the tsarnaev brothers have been in the united states much longer. they were really immigrants and the fact that they come from chechnya, a place that's been at war with russia has in some ways softened the response. so far at least, i think we have not seen as much anti-muslim kind of talk as there was after 9/11. >> i think you're absolutely right. there's...
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the shook shooting quickly segued into a policy debate about guns and gun safety. we're already seeing it in the aftermath of boston. we'll talk about enemy combatants and whether the marathon bombing should delay immigration reform since both suspects were foreign-born. but west, texas, has not yet captured our political attention the same way. part of this has to do with the specific intense focus we give terrorism since 9/11. and there is something about accidents that seem more random and somehow less menacing than the malevolent acts of individuals. but the way we process as tragedy and its aftermath has huge implications on the way our society acts. last week, the night after the fertilizer plant exploded, we showed you a chart that deserves to be highlighted again. from 2000 to 2010, 3,033 americans died from terror attacks. during that same time, more than 335,000 americans died at the hands of a gun, while there were over 60,000 workplace deaths. around this time last year in a speech to commemorate workers' memorial day, former secretary hilda solis said
the shook shooting quickly segued into a policy debate about guns and gun safety. we're already seeing it in the aftermath of boston. we'll talk about enemy combatants and whether the marathon bombing should delay immigration reform since both suspects were foreign-born. but west, texas, has not yet captured our political attention the same way. part of this has to do with the specific intense focus we give terrorism since 9/11. and there is something about accidents that seem more random and...
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the neocons who knew so much more about foreign policy than him but had an agenda. >> on the topic of george w. bush, the problem with that formulation is that he didn't know what he didn't know. george w. was a profoundly incurious guy. he was almost proud of his lack of curiosity. so he couldn't balance and evaluate the expertise that was thrown at him by those people that he had around him. that was the fundamental -- that was the fundamental flaw of george w. bush's presidency. i know jeb also. and i think jeb is not that kind of guy. i think jeb is much more on the -- on the muscle to use a horse racing term. >> he knows what he knows. >> he knows what he knows. >> education. >> yeah. and he is curious. and he's broad gauged. i'll tell you what, if mario -- if marco rubio does not run, jeb almost has to run. because he's the only other major figure in the party who can reach out to hispanics. >> wouldn't it be a sad thing to recycle a bush? for the republican party, the one silver lining of last year, we were told, was that they had such a deep bench. whether it was chris christi
the neocons who knew so much more about foreign policy than him but had an agenda. >> on the topic of george w. bush, the problem with that formulation is that he didn't know what he didn't know. george w. was a profoundly incurious guy. he was almost proud of his lack of curiosity. so he couldn't balance and evaluate the expertise that was thrown at him by those people that he had around him. that was the fundamental -- that was the fundamental flaw of george w. bush's presidency. i know...
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toward national security and foreign policy which is to say to lighten the american footprint in the reasoning, but to deal with these threats of so that's one point. the other thing is, i don't think that barack obama considers the drones a panacea in the war on terror. and one of his top national security advisers said to me, he sees it as an important tactical weapon that has strategic implications. but mostly, he sees it as an opportunity to try to prevent the next attack in the united states. so he was pretty hard nosed about that. so that's where he is. >> richard, you know, i can make moral and legal arguments for codifying our drone program. the rules of engagement and i have in the past. there is also a very practical argument for getting this down on paper. and increasing the transparency on it. when, not if, when bad actors get their hands on the same technology that we have, and use it in terrible ways, we really lose our ability to lean on our allies and world bodies and ask them to sanction or punish these bad actors for an unaccountable drone program when the mantra of
toward national security and foreign policy which is to say to lighten the american footprint in the reasoning, but to deal with these threats of so that's one point. the other thing is, i don't think that barack obama considers the drones a panacea in the war on terror. and one of his top national security advisers said to me, he sees it as an important tactical weapon that has strategic implications. but mostly, he sees it as an opportunity to try to prevent the next attack in the united...
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he said something good about foreign policy. he wanted to see more humility. you know, know your limits, don't let people push you around. and then there was dick cheney. cheney saw himself he got himself picked. didn't push see this happening or, better yet, how many times must he have looked backwards over these 12 years and said, how did i let him get that one over on me? this was his father's p predicament after he picked dan quayle. is this a problem specific to the bush family? some american version of divine right and the gimmick is to really believe in it and then dammit, you really do believe it and then you can't admit you are wrong, the whole notion that you were born in the ruling class in the first place. it's the best i could come up with. why on earth, using commonsense, has george w. bush not come to the recognition that dick cheney pulled the wool over him, moving him to do whatever cheney would have done were he formally in charge. i have a suspicion that the president knows exactly what i am talking about now and yes, dick cheney was the jok
he said something good about foreign policy. he wanted to see more humility. you know, know your limits, don't let people push you around. and then there was dick cheney. cheney saw himself he got himself picked. didn't push see this happening or, better yet, how many times must he have looked backwards over these 12 years and said, how did i let him get that one over on me? this was his father's p predicament after he picked dan quayle. is this a problem specific to the bush family? some...
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policy in our countries, which a lot of americans are very ignorant about. cenk: i saw a tweet before i came on the air of someone saying the iraqis have been living with these kind of i.e.d.'s for 10 years because of the war we started when they didn't attack us on 9/11 at all. it happens here once, we all totally justifiably freak out it could have been us, could have been our kids, only it was the iraqis, it was their kids based on a war we started and never be should have. cenk: security, and how do you protect against these threats think of iraqar kabul any city with a high level of violence, you have the entire government set up to prevent bombs from getting through and they still can't do it. you have 100,000 iraqis and americans searching every car and they still get through. there is no way to protect against this stuff on a 100% basis. the fact that this happens with irregularity with other things blowing up around the world, we should be thankful for it. one in 20 million is not bad. cenk: on a relative scale. there is one mythical thing that if i
policy in our countries, which a lot of americans are very ignorant about. cenk: i saw a tweet before i came on the air of someone saying the iraqis have been living with these kind of i.e.d.'s for 10 years because of the war we started when they didn't attack us on 9/11 at all. it happens here once, we all totally justifiably freak out it could have been us, could have been our kids, only it was the iraqis, it was their kids based on a war we started and never be should have. cenk: security,...
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the foreign policy of this also. the most interesting thing that reagan did early on in foreign policy was the air traffic controller strike and toughness at times at home have repercussions aboeroad. this story got lost because of the boston bombings. >> but helps new awax. you only have to send that message once or twice to have one person go back and go, he is crazy. you know what he just told me? he said he was going to destroy me. >> what the president, what president obama, for reasons not only to him and his nature, clearly does not do or cannot do is something that lyndon johnson did do and this story has been repeated too many times for it not to be apockrifal. frank church a senator from idaho opposed senator johnson on an element of vietnam policy and another senator, i forget which one, wanted a line in an appropriations bill for a dam in his state. and he was on the fence with regard to lyndon johnson's view on vietnam policy. he called the president specifically asking, i need this. kou help me get it?
the foreign policy of this also. the most interesting thing that reagan did early on in foreign policy was the air traffic controller strike and toughness at times at home have repercussions aboeroad. this story got lost because of the boston bombings. >> but helps new awax. you only have to send that message once or twice to have one person go back and go, he is crazy. you know what he just told me? he said he was going to destroy me. >> what the president, what president obama,...
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. >>> let's bring in mike, staff writer and celeste, foreign policy analyst from the department of labor's occupational safety and health administration. great to have you both here. when you heard about this, mike and started looking through the osha records, i saw it from your reporting, were you surprised it had been so long since osha inspected the plant? >> no. literally the plant had not been inspected in my lifetime, literally not since 1985. there's not enough osha inspector inspectors for the country. there are so few in texas, it would take 98 years for them to inspect every place once. it didn't surprise me. typically there's only an inspector when a worker calls up and complains and typically only in a union workplace. >> it's a complaint and people come out and not like doors on hazardous work sites. >> occasionally, not that often. >> what is the standard. you would think a fertiliz fertilizer -- about 20 employees in this west fertilizer warehouse where this happened. what is this standard that would prompt a heightened level of scrutiny from osha or from any kind of federal
. >>> let's bring in mike, staff writer and celeste, foreign policy analyst from the department of labor's occupational safety and health administration. great to have you both here. when you heard about this, mike and started looking through the osha records, i saw it from your reporting, were you surprised it had been so long since osha inspected the plant? >> no. literally the plant had not been inspected in my lifetime, literally not since 1985. there's not enough osha...
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foreign policy has an interesting anal a sysianalysis. chernen writes the numerous terror strikes have not been included in the short list of major terrorist attacks, america's 9/11, london's 7-7, and spain. instead, russia was placed in a different category where like in israel, terrorism was deemed a response to the government's repression, rather than an attack against humanity as such. that's obviously one person's take. in the broader conversation about global terror, those attacks are not often included in the same list. >> although if you are living in moscow or living in russia, you would certainly say they were terrorism. the russians did at the time say they were attacks of terrorism. a conversation we're having now is a reminder of why we do need to know what's happening around the world. why it matters what's happening in chechnya, the capital was flattened during the war there. that chows of chechens have been killed and at some point we have to wake up to the fact that the world is so interconnected, the borders are fairly p
foreign policy has an interesting anal a sysianalysis. chernen writes the numerous terror strikes have not been included in the short list of major terrorist attacks, america's 9/11, london's 7-7, and spain. instead, russia was placed in a different category where like in israel, terrorism was deemed a response to the government's repression, rather than an attack against humanity as such. that's obviously one person's take. in the broader conversation about global terror, those attacks are not...
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said it was the heart of american foreign policy. it's a great idea. i think they're right in the idea is economic state craft, jobs at home, aboard, jobs in the middle east. they didn't implement. part of it's congress, but again, i hear from people on the hill, they didn't talk to them. she proposed this $5 million incentive fund, but wouldn't give congress any details about how they're going to spend it. dead on arrival. john kerry proposed it last week. we'll see if he has more luck. >> so, what do we do in a place like syria where we were -- the fact in the fall that 20,000 have been killed. now, we're bemoaning the fact that 25,000 have been killed. if this had happened in europe, we'd be there. >> i was in bosnia -- >> kosovo. the killings never reached that level. and yet, we stormed in and stayed there for a very long time. the middle east in this case, we're staying out of there. and perhaps we need to stay out of there, but you know the books and the articles and the essays that are going to be written a decade from now about the blood on th
said it was the heart of american foreign policy. it's a great idea. i think they're right in the idea is economic state craft, jobs at home, aboard, jobs in the middle east. they didn't implement. part of it's congress, but again, i hear from people on the hill, they didn't talk to them. she proposed this $5 million incentive fund, but wouldn't give congress any details about how they're going to spend it. dead on arrival. john kerry proposed it last week. we'll see if he has more luck....
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we certainly will be talking more about the implications here in terms of foreign policy and possibly national security and how the white house responds in the coming days. first before we do that, i want to play some sound from dzhokah tsarnaev's uncle who came and spoke to the press earlier this morning, talking about check nia, the checken identity in the united states, let's play a little of that sound. >> hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. these are the only reasons i can imagine of. anything else, anything else to do with religion, with islam, that's a fraud. it's a fake. >> "the new york times" white house correspondent, peter baker is with us. peter, thanks for joining us, you were the moscow bureau chief for four years and covered the second chechen war. a lot of folks in america are hearing the word chechnya for the first time and don't understand the dynamics between chechnya, russia and the united states. can you give us a little primer about the sort of tumult in the region? >> it's a good question. we're learning a lot today, a lot of americans haven't f
we certainly will be talking more about the implications here in terms of foreign policy and possibly national security and how the white house responds in the coming days. first before we do that, i want to play some sound from dzhokah tsarnaev's uncle who came and spoke to the press earlier this morning, talking about check nia, the checken identity in the united states, let's play a little of that sound. >> hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. these are the only reasons...
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policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the government from people who should be stepping up and saying, wait a minute, we can't kill u.s. citizens without due process? >> right, i think there's no question that if john mccain had won the election in 2008 or mitt romney had won it in 2012 that liberals would be screaming about this stuff and saying, you know, that -- there would be this thing, war crimes, we should do impeachment and the reality is that i think a lot of people -- and i think this is sincere. a lot of people so fed up with the iraq war, perceived as the sort of crimes of the bush administration they wanted it to end and the obama administration has sold people a bill of goods. the idea that the drone war is actually clean. which is why i call it dirty wars. when you kill people in yemen
policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the government from people who should be stepping up and saying, wait a minute, we can't kill u.s. citizens without due process? >> right, i think there's no...